Nope, at least not as a rule.
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| Author: | bob J [ Sat Feb 26, 2005 2:57 am ] |
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Does Macassar Ebony need to be filled? |
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| Author: | Bob Steidl [ Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:19 am ] |
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Nope, at least not as a rule.
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| Author: | Dickey [ Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:37 am ] |
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I like that guitar Bob, and especially the bridge for some reason. How is Macassar working with? Bending and resawing, gluing? I nearly bought a piece last time but was too busy with figured Sapele. |
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| Author: | Bobc [ Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:50 am ] |
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Wow great looking guitar Bob. Tell us a little bit about it. |
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| Author: | Bob Steidl [ Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:08 am ] |
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Thanks guys. Macassar works well and is a dream to finish, though I had some trouble bending it. Not sure if it was me or the fact that it was ebony, but I have a broken side from that very guitar hanging in my shop just to remind me why I bought a blanket. A blanket is cheaper than a set of macassar sides. 
The guitar is your generic OM-sized unit, my own twist on the shape. Top is European spruce, rosette is amboyna, bindings are koa, fb and bridge are snakewood. Now I'm a little embarrassed for posting it and for hijacking the thread. |
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| Author: | Don Williams [ Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:28 am ] |
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Hey Bob, When are you quitting that college professor job of yours so you can make a great living at luthery? Umm....second thought.......never mind. 
Nice guitar. What's your current project? |
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| Author: | Howard Klepper [ Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:34 am ] |
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It needs to be filled if you don't want to see pores. |
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| Author: | Bob Steidl [ Sat Feb 26, 2005 8:17 am ] |
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Howard, the pores are really, really small so they fill with finish easily; my response reflects my experience. My first day of spraying is a coat of sealer followed by 3 wet coats of lac, knocked down the next day with 320. They are basically filled at the point. So yes, you could certainly use a filler, but it really isn't necessary for this wood, in the same way it isn't necessary for maple. Your mileage may vary. And thanks Don, but I like my day job too! |
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| Author: | WalterK [ Sat Feb 26, 2005 11:38 am ] |
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Hi Bob, This is a really nice looking guitar!! Clean lines, yet just enough fancy to make us all happy. How wide is the nut/neck? How does it sound.............? Was this a special order for someone or you just made it for resale? Thanks, WalterK |
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| Author: | Bob Steidl [ Sat Feb 26, 2005 2:32 pm ] |
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Thanks Walter. This was a commission. It's 1.75" at the nut, which I made from the incisor of a hippo! Sound-wise, I was not all that pleased when I first strung it up... it was okay, but had too much fundamental for me. But the sound changed rapidly and changed a lot. Much more than any other guitar I've ever made. After a few days I was relieved as it came around nicely. |
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| Author: | Howard Klepper [ Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:08 pm ] |
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Bob, my comment is based on my experience. That's one guitar body plus some headstock veneers, which isn't a lot, but enough to see that it has open pores. Not huge pores, but not at all like maple which has nearly invisible, micro-pores that don't benefit from any filling. You could fill the Macassar pores with lacquer, but in my experience, filling with lacquer requires sanding or scraping down a couple of times, and is in the end more work than using a filler (I favor epoxy). |
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| Author: | Bob Steidl [ Sun Feb 27, 2005 5:18 am ] |
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Fair enough, and I can think of a couple reasons for our differing experiences. If the stock is not well quartered, then the pores could be exposed in radial sections, making them more of an issue. And there are many species of ebony; I have two distinct flavors of Macassar ebony which I'm willing to bet are different species. As a rule then, if you think a piece needs filling then it does. |
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| Author: | tippie53 [ Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:21 pm ] |
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there are 2 woods I don't fill. Maple and Cherry. All others will need the fill process as the pores will cause sinks A short cut often is the longest route |
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| Author: | bob J [ Sun Feb 27, 2005 2:09 pm ] |
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Thanks much to all! |
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